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Any future Guitar Wing Editor updates, or firmware updates?

wondering if their will ever be any updates to the GW editor, like patch changes as in up/down or patch number on the fly like a midi foot controller, etc... or any firmware updates?

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  • Yes, we are in the works on an update right now.

    We are currently working on it 'until it's done', but that could be as soon as next week.

    The update, so far, includes:
    - Pitchbends that Snap back to Center when released
    - CC34 Increment/Decrement mappings (for Axe Fx users)
    - Increment/Decrement mappings for the MIDI Bank Change Message 

    Guitar Wing's current firmware supports some patch change methods already.
    (Select Bank, Select Program, Program Change Up/Down)

    I'd love to make sure this update incorporates whatever you are trying to do.
    Can you describe your setup in more detail, so that I can make sure we get you exactly what you need?

  • Sorry for the late reply,, I never got any notice,? Maybe I'm missing something in the editor, you allow (Select Bank, Select Program, Program Change Up/Down) I noticed with the editor, that it does not expand or resize in Win 7 or Win 10 and most/all the drop-down selections are mostly dashes, I've seen no way for Program Change Up/Down, or Bank Select,,,. I can assign a/one program change per button, so lets say I have 5 programs/patch's I want to use, change on an FX Processor, I have to use up 5 of my button/controllers...? So I wonder why the editor is not showing these options, and I also noticed in advance that the /all number drop-downs just go/show 0 to 9 and the rest are blank, even though they are there if I scroll down and click, but that's just a blind guess at what number Ill end-up with. this is the same on both my Lenovo W520 Win 7 Pro, and Surface Pro 4 Win 10 Pro. So I've got a screwy editor issue. I cant remember if I copied it and move it from Win 7 to Win 10 or not? I Might of got a bad DL. I don't see anyway to upload an attachment or Id show you a screen shot. Hang on I think I found it, insert image. No-Go. Also notices the check boxes for motion, leds and software are hard to check/enable, I have to click afew times to get a take.,,, on both computers. I'll try a new DL on the surface pro and see what gives, and if its still the same, I upload some pics somewhere, so you can see.  

  • Tried a clean DL on Surface Pro 4, Same issue, here's a link to some pics on my One Drive, of whats going on , or not going on?

    https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArjVqBofnJmXiSb6vxZ0i_XH2eJW

  • a little over half way down the page on this link is a comparison of the editor to what I'm getting. I'm sure you know by looking at mine, that the menu's are not complete in size/width, etc......

    https://www.emusician.com/gear/review-livid-instruments-guitar-wing

  • Hi 02DropD,


    In developing the editor update, I found that some of the items were not labeled properly in the last release of the editor.
    This will be released around the end of this week, so feel free to wait, but
    these items still are implemented properly in the last release firmware.

    I have posted a screenshot with what the 'special' items are now in the 'advanced' 'control' settings, so you can use them in the meantime.



  • Thanks Moon,  can you tell me though, how am I missing this


    "Guitar Wing's current firmware supports some patch change methods already.
    (Select Bank, Program Change Up/Down)" ?
  • Ah, those are the Advanced 'Special' Key Options.

    They were labeled properly in the last release of Guitar Wing Editor (v109).

    In Midi, Bank Select is generally just CC 0
    Select Bank can be done by mapping the "Key" as CC 0, 'no off', and set the 'max' to whatever bank you would like to select.
    Let me know if I can help you more with this.


  • Thanks Moon that helped a lot. As I showed you before, my drop-down menus don't show S**t, but I guessed with the picture you gave me and kind of have the program change up/down working, until I hit a different pad on the GW, and my up/down wont work,,,,, until I hit my peddle, then it works again. But Im making progress. Hope the menu's will work in the new release. And it may be too late, but I wish the up/down pointers and the rectangle buttons on the GW had the same advance options as the pad's do, Id rather use it,them for up/down...., than a pad. 

  • OK Moon, I did get the patch change up/down working for the arrow buttons on the GW, I guess my biggest problem is I'm doing all this in braille. Guess I'll mess some more,,, sure makes for a long hard process when you've no menu's. LOL!

  • Awesome, I'm glad you got it working, and I'm sorry that these features weren't properly labeled in the last version of Guitar Wing Editor.

    We have fixed it, and the next version of Guitar Wing Editor will be released in less than a week. 

  • Thanks for your help moon, and look forward to more. Have a good one.

  • edited January 2018

    Will there be a new Mac version of the editor? 

  • Yes. New Mac, Windows, and Linux versions will be released.


    This update for Guitar Wing is almost complete.
    We have a second update scheduled for the second half of February, and we are currently in the midst of putting in version detection for the Software and Firmware, so that we can more easily notify everyone when the February update is released (and any future releases moving forward).


  • Hey moon, how about tweaking one for Raspberry Pi3 running Raspbian. And while youre at it,,, would you cross compile some Qt code to run on a Rpi? Ive tried, and I can get the GUI working, I just cant get the midi, I guess Qt creator has to be cross compiled/Built to the Pi first, and I just cant get there. Here's the source code. https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/files/GP-10/.  The deal with the Boss GP-10, is that,, its Not USB Midi  Class Compliant,  so I have to use the Pi as a host for the GP for midi my foot controller to change presets. Thinking as I have a 7" touchscreen on the Pi, and  your GW Editor (for Rpi3) and the GP Editor  (for Rpi3)...., I'd be set. : )

  • I've run it on my pi.

    I don't remember if it requires a separate build due to it being an arm.
    If it loads up like you said, it should work, and you probably just need alsa for midi functions.

    In terminal, type 
    aconnect -l
    - does it show a list of midi ports (or does it say 'command not found' or something of that nature)?


  • Hey moon you say "I've run it on my pi."  I guessing yore talking about the Boss GP-10?  and not the GP-10 Editor.....

    It looks like I've more going on, or not going on, actually... I just noticed that I'm deploying an overlay of the gui,,, I noticed it after I VNC'd into the Pi. I've got the gui on the Pi, but not the VNC viewer's actual view of the Pi (that just shows the Pi desktop) . That's odd. Anyway, looks like I've more to do. Kind of getting out of hand, with 2 workstations, the Pi, wireless keyboards, mouse's, etc....LOL

    What I think happened, is I followed too many Tut's on trying to build Qt on the Pi so I could compile the source code, so Ive an incomplete Qt build that wont execute, but enough Qt crap on the Pi, that it will launch the gui as and overlay and I have 2 mouse pointers in tandem,,, one under and one for the gui, so when I click on something on the GP-10 Editor, at the same time Im clicking  who knows what on the Pi desktop that's under the gui....? But yes the Editor has to be compiled on the Pi,,,, and Im not good at this stuff, just learning. I need someone that knows what they are doing, and has Qt compiled on their Pi.

      Now I have used the GW in the Pi, and that's no problem, just thought the GW Editor may be handy, running on the Pi.  


  • Oh, I was talking about Guitar Wing Editor.

    I'm not sure about the GP-10 editor. I've never used that app.

    I use Qt4 on a lot of projects.
    I usually install qt on pi by doing this:
    sudo apt-get install python-qt4  
    (in terminal)
    It installs the qt4 libraries, and the associated python library, which I use for a lot of test apps.

    Does that help?
  • What would it take for you to run this source code through and see what you come up with? https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/files/GP-10/ 

    I've got to start all over with everything, as it is cross contaminated.... I'm using raspbian-Jessie on the Pi3, and don't know what Im really doing. I may have to park it for awhile. I sure you've got enough on your plate, than to be jacking with this.   

    Thanks

  • Hey what ever happened to the editor update that was talked about here? 






  • > bleo said: > Hey what ever happened to the editor update that was talked about here? 


    Actually it was and editor and fw update , Moon Just flat out Lied, and this reply will go any as many have. Their is no updates, that's just to keep you hanging on or buying product, thinking it will be supported. If you cant use the editor because off bug's and your told 'soon or a couple days", and over a year later. Nothing? Go Figure. LOL! 


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  • Hi bleo and 02DropD,


    I'm not aware of any bugs with Guitar Wing.
    The GUI is intended not to scale.
    However, we did say that an update was coming quite a while ago, and it is due time that we make good on that.

    02DropD your original feature request of "program change up/down" is currently working with Editor 1.09 and Firmware 1.40.
    In the 'Advanced' settings, set the Key -> Message 
    to 'Special' in the first box, 
    then select 'Next Program' or 'Previous Program in the second box.

    We will finish up the work on:
    - Pitchbends that Snap back to Center when released
    - CC34 Increment/Decrement mappings (for Axe Fx users)
    - Increment/Decrement mappings for the MIDI Bank Change Message 
    over the couple of weeks.
    We will release a beta version in this thread before the general public release.



  • Midi Bank Change message (which is a combination of cc codes, not just one). Yay!

  • Hi Everyone,

    Just touching base again.
    The development has started this week, and will continue through next week.
    We hope to get a beta out toward the end of next week.
  • Killer! Very excited for the snapback pitchbends! Also, just want to offer up a couple GUI bugs in the editor: 

    • In Windows (tested in both 7 and 10), while using Advanced mode, the drop down menus become too narrow and you can't read the values. They appear as "..."
    • In Windows 7, the checkboxes work but you can't see if they're checked or not. The box appears blank but the functionality still toggles even though you can't see whether it's checked or unchecked. But this isn't an issue in Windows 10.

  • > bleo said: > Killer! Very excited for the snapback pitchbends! Also, just want to offer up a couple GUI bugs in the editor: 

    • In Windows (tested in both 7 and 10), while using Advanced mode, the drop down menus become too narrow and you can't read the values. They appear as "..."
    • In Windows 7, the checkboxes work but you can't see if they're checked or not. The box appears blank but the functionality still toggles even though you can't see whether it's checked or unchecked. But this isn't an issue in Windows 10.
    bleo , if you look a couple post back, they're telling me that's not a Bug....? It's sure is something then, because That was my main problem, and I just got to where I didn't want to Jack with something I could program, I mean come on, what's is a bunch of dashes going to tell me? ------- Oh! I get it. LMFAO, I guess it's the Version for Psychics.
       I purchased two GW's along time ago which If I known the Editor was Screwed and Support ended up being a Lie, I wouldn't have. and "The GUI is intended not to scale"?  FIX IT.  and why was it intended not to scale? That tells me they had/have a bug they couldn't figure out, Not that this was an actual feature (The GUI is intended not to scale) Sorry I'm just trying to figure out Why or What they intended ? I'd have to look back a year or so, but I'm sure moon told me the Editor worked fine and they'd never seen the problem We are talking about, and I've tried it on 5 different computers and 3 OS. Anyway I wouldn't get my hopes up there to high, I've been down that path along time ago..  and I've seen a lot of post deleted.


  • Thanks for the report 02DropD.


    A scaling GUI is not scheduled for the upcoming update, 
    though we will definitely look into the other GUI related issues that you mentioned here.

    There were indeed posts deleted from our forums, when we had a serious spam attack in our forums 2017 (the deleted posts were all moon's according to our records). 
    Unfortunately, "moon's" user was deleted during the cleanup, and all of his posts were removed with it.
    We were definitely sad to lose all of that content, as moon consistently provided the answers to the most technical issues.



  • Hi again,

    We are still working on this. We're hopeful that we can get the first build out by the end of the week!
  • One more update here.

    We have the firmware for this release ready to go.
    We have the editor updated, but we have not thoroughly tested it on all operating systems yet.
    Our first beta will be released in this forum thread Monday or Tuesday.

    A lot of these updates we've mentioned here focus on adapting Guitar Wing to specific hardware (Bank Changes/ Program Changes/ CC34 Up/Dn).
    We'd love to know what hardware you are connecting to, so we can make some presets files for you to demonstrate how to configure the Guitar Wing for those devices.
    (I only see the Boss GP-10 and Axe Fx mentioned in this thread.)

    If there are other devices that any of you are looking into using these features for please let us know!
  • Our testers rejected yesterday's build, so we weren't able to post it yet.

    A couple of things just weren't quite right when we used wing outside of the test environment, so we're fixing those things up and documenting the new features today.
  • Hi Everyone,

    Today's builds have passed testing.
    We are working on documentation for the new features.
    I will list the new features below, but more detailed information will come later.

    ---------------------------------------------------
    Guitar Wing Firmware v143 Download

    Guitar Wing Editor v111 Downloads
    ---------------------------------------------------
    Description of Updates:

    - Added 'Send Bank' checkbox to 'Program Change' Messages.
    -- This allows a program select message to also send the bank as defined by the 'msb/lsb' entry fields.

    - Added Program Change Up and Down to the 'Special' 'Key' messages.
    --- These items have a 'wrap' checkbox that allows the program to wrap-around back to after it hits it's limits, if desired.
    --- Added a 'Send Current Bank' checkbox to this feature that allows the program to send the last selected MIDI bank, if desired.

    - Added Bank Select to the 'Special' 'Key' messages. That allows sending the 14-bit MIDI Bank value.
    -- Added a 'Send Current Program' checkbox to this feature that allows the program to send the last selected MIDI program, if desired.

    - Added Bank Up and Down to the 'Special' 'Key' messages.
    -- Added a 'Send Current Program' checkbox to this feature that allows the program to send the last selected MIDI program, if desired.

    - Added CC34 Value Up and Down to 'Special' 'Key' messages.
    --- These items have a 'wrap' checkbox that allows the value to wrap-around back to after it hits it's limits, if desired.

    - Special Control Mapping 'Pitchbend-Full' now snaps back to center value upon release.

    - Numerous GUI Updates to make the settings more readable and look better on Windows, macOS, and Ubuntu.

    We plan on adding a few presets to the 'presets' menu before releasing this from Beta, 
    so if you come up with a great preset for your device or app, feel free to share your presets here.
    If you have any questions about how to integrate these features with your device, feel free to ask us here as well!


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